The Fight For Life Virtual Class Forum

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Brian Hardin 07/19/2011 01:16
rustcp next week we will discuss the role of suffering in this life in a fallen world.
Brian Hardin 07/19/2011 01:17
Ray,

The Scriptural basis for the Daily Prayer can be found here http://www.ransomedheart.com/more_prayers.aspx
Ray 07/19/2011 08:11
Thanks, Brian. I have a feeling a person could spend a very long time on those three pages.

"There is a daily-ness" to our walk with Christ...we can lose connection with our head (Col 2:19)"
Leslie 07/20/2011 12:07
Hi to all. I enjoyed reading everything that everyone has posted here.... I can relate to much of it and wanted to share. When I first started downloading DAB in 1/2008 I was not comfortable with the Spiritual realm either. My time in His Word daily; God has made me look forward to Him challenging my paradigm. ( I love that word btw, thanks Brian) I also have enjoyed John's perspective and insight on walking with God. John Eldredge is the first person I heard and really took notes on the spiritual. I remember painting my daughters room and listening to the Hope of Prayer. I still go back to that, because John brought up the idea of the enemy stealing my hope while in prayer, so then I don't pray effectively.


It has taken time for me to get to where I am today and still have so much farther to go.... I guess week 2 reminded me that I am wasting too much yelling at God when I should be yelling at the enemy! Its tricky, these agreements that we have built up in our lives and made a part of our identity. I have found that when I begin to feel challenge in my heart, it's usually God wanting me to let go of an agreement and trust Him more so I can be more effective for Him. It doesn't always feel like a "win", but it's definitely a fight for life. I don't recognize myself anymore..I love it. There is freedom in believing in God and letting go of what I think I know already and inviting Him into more of those places in my heart. It truly is an occupancy thing! How much of our hearts are rented out or sold out to agreements, lies, or mediocrity. This seems to be a continuous part of the journey and I always have to be vigilant about my heart. Things can slip in, like Joyce said, and before you know it...another heart space is taken up by anything BUT Jesus!
Thank you for this class, Brian.

Sarajane8 07/20/2011 12:21
I would've liked more teaching for Women however I got so much out of week two too.

I can't wait for week three.
John T 08/15/2011 21:13
Wow! I just listened to week 2 today - I know still a few weeks behind! It was very good and I had to stop at one point. I was trying to break an agreement. This breaking agreements thing is huge - I haven't seen this before! It is so very true! Looking forward to week 3.
John
John T 08/18/2011 17:26
I thought this was interesting... Discusses the reality of the spiritual side of our world. Thought provoking and kind of scary!
John

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14207132/110818-ffd_20090714.mp3
(give it a couple hours to upload and go active)
Ray 08/19/2011 13:11
Haven't listened to Dobson yet, John, but working on it. This seems to be about the external war of the new spirituality, pantheism; Tolle, Williamson, Chopra, and Oprah. The FFL is more about the fight in our hearts, right?

Thanks for the link. I have friends who buy Oprah's church.

Chesterton puts the bigger picture of the FFL into words that are really shocking. Oppression and debauchery have to have blows struck against them in our hearts or we are complicit in keeping God under the foot of Satan in this world. But these things are not of us, they are not the good that we have at our source. Really a heavy way of looking at our lives:

There must at any given moment be an abstract right and wrong if any
blow is to be struck; there must be something eternal if there is to
be anything sudden. Therefore for all intelligible human purposes, for
altering things or for keeping things as they are, for founding a system
for ever, as in China, or for altering it every month as in the early
French Revolution, it is equally necessary that the vision should be a
fixed vision. This is our first requirement.

When I had written this down, I felt once again the presence of something
else in the discussion: as a man hears a church bell above the sound of
the street. Something seemed to be saying, "My ideal at least is fixed;
for it was fixed before the foundations of the world. My vision of
perfection assuredly cannot be altered; for it is called Eden. You may
alter the place to which you are going; but you cannot alter the place
from which you have come.

To the orthodox there must always be a case for revolution; for in the
hearts of men God has been put under the feet of Satan. In the upper world
hell once rebelled against heaven. But in this world heaven is rebelling
against hell. For the orthodox there can always be a revolution; for a
revolution is a restoration. At any instant you may strike a blow for
the perfection which no man has seen since Adam. No unchanging custom,
no changing evolution can make the original good any thing but good. Man
may have had concubines as long as cows have had horns: still they are not
a part of him if they are sinful. Men may have been under oppression ever
since fish were under water; still they ought not to be, if oppression
is sinful. The chain may seem as natural to the slave, or the paint
to the harlot, as does the plume to the bird or the burrow to the fox;
still they are not, if they are sinful.

Chesterton, G. K. (Gilbert Keith) (1994-05-01). Orthodoxy (p. 73). Public
Domain Books. Kindle Edition.

John T 08/20/2011 07:00
Very interesting Ray. Yes, this is much more about the external battle than the internal one.
Monica Mary 06/01/2015 01:04
For altering things or for keeping things as they are, for founding a system for ever, as in China, or for altering it every month as in the early French Revolution.


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